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What? Find homes priced less than foreclosures? How do you do that? I’m going to explain exactly how that is done and why it is the hottest new thing to hit real estate investing in the last 20 years. So let’s go ahead and get started.

 

The MLS, or the multiple listing service, is a computer database of all the properties that are listed in a given area by any licensed real estate agent who is a member of the local MLS board. An MLS board is comprised of members who are realtors in a defined area. It can usually be by county or by area. There are literally thousands of them across the country and each one is different. They’re not all connected and you have to be a member of each one.

 

You will usually just be concerned with the one or two in the area that you invest in. Why is the MLS so important? Once again I want to remind you of what power there is in the MLS. Here it is… up to ninety percent of the properties in a given area are controlled by this powerful tool.

 

Think about that for just a moment. How would you like to sit down in front of a computer and plug in the exact information of what you’re looking for and have it right there on the screen in front of you? I think you would agree that could make life a whole lot easier for any investor.

 

However, it wasn’t always that easy. It started many, many years ago when agents used to literally carry their listings in their pocket. (A listing is a property that is for sale where an agent represents the seller in the transaction.) They would be out working the streets trying to get them sold for their clients. Often times they would meet up with fellow agents as they were out and about. At this time they would get together and compare each other’s listings and try to help each other get them sold. When they would cooperate like this on a sale, they would share the commissions.

 

I don’t need to tell you how well this worked. It was at that time the idea was proposed to have a service where all these listings could be placed in one convenient location. This would help agents sell their listings quicker and everyone would be happy and make more money.

 

In the days before computers, agents had an MLS book. Usually it came out monthly, depending on the area. You really had to be on top of the inventory in those days because the books weren’t always the most up-to-date information. Houses could be bought and sold while the book was still at the print shop.

 

Of course, agents used a computerized MLS long before the Internet became popular. As the Internet expanded, a lot of real estate companies became naturally concerned about their privileged information (the MLS) becoming available to the general public. They felt this inside information becoming public could truly hurt their business. They would say things like, “Why are people going to need our services anymore?”

 

It was a legitimate concern. Just imagine, the privileged information clients could only get from you was now all over the internet. But guess what? It totally worked to a real estate agent’s advantage.

 

The largest real estate website in the world, for those of you who don’t know, is Realtor.com. It literally contains every listing in the country. You simply plug in the state and area you want to move to and, voila! Sounds great, right? Well, sort of.

 

The great thing about Realtor.com is it has given a lot of power to buyers and sellers. What do I mean by that? It has given them the opportunity to research a market before they even get to the area. What that has done in many instances is to cut down on a lot of the real estate agent’s work.

 

Here’s how. Let’s say I live in Boston and I’m moving to Dallas. I simply go to Realtor.com, type in the Dallas area and I can instantly be looking at homes that are for sale. I can even choose my agent online. So when I do arrive in the Dallas area, I have somewhat of a feel for the area.

 

Besides Realtor.com, there are hundreds of smaller websites for searching homes all over the internet, and that is where an inherent problem lies. In case you haven’t noticed, with the advent of the information age there is often too much information. It can be overwhelming. How many websites can I possibly view? Are you starting to get the picture?

 

Here’s another problem. I know a lot of beginning investors will try to find and comp property on Realtor.com. Why is that a problem? Depending on an area, some information can be very dated. Let’s say I listed a home on a Tuesday morning. In most cases that home is on my local MLS by that afternoon, but often it can take days or more to show up on Realtor.com

 

Let’s face it. When you have almost every listing in the country on a website, certain things are going to slip through the cracks. That’s not to say it’s Realtor.com’s fault. They’re just posting the information that is given to them by thousands of smaller MLS’s across the country. That certainly is a recipe for some glitches, though, wouldn’t you say?

 

I’ve had clients who watch Realtor.com daily for new listings, and when a fresh one comes up that meets their criteria, they call on it. They’re shocked when they find out the home was sold five days ago. That’s just the nature of all that information. I’ve seen homes that have been sold for months still showing active.

 

I’m not trying to say Realtor.com is not a good site for folks to go to, because it is. It gives them a great look at a local area and inventory. I’m just saying it’s not the best place to find the best deals for a real estate investor. There’s only one place for that, the place where the listings originate, and that is your local MLS, period! Everything else may be diluted and not as accurate. Let me ask you a question. Would you want a calculator that was 85% to 95% accurate?

 

Another reason investors and real estate agents often don’t mix very well is investors often don’t trust the agents. Most investors think that real estate agents grab all the good deals on the MLS. They think, “Why would they tell me?” or “They’ll just want them all for themselves.” I’m here to tell you that nothing could be further from the truth. Remember what I said earlier about the 80/20 rule? That’s why!

 

The majority of real estate agents can’t afford to buy these deals, although this is the completely opposite perception of the public and most real estate investors. Trust me, when a great deal comes up on the MLS, agents are happy just to get it sold and get paid the commission. They’re not even thinking about buying it for themselves because they can’t afford it.

 

I can almost hear you thinking, “What about the 20% with all the money?” Good question. As a general rule, those agents are so busy listing and selling homes that they don’t have the time. Of course, there are a few out of that group who own rental properties and pick up a fixer-upper here and there. It is certainly the minority of that 20%, and they don’t go out of their way to find them. Their primary business is listing homes and taking care of their clients, not looking for fixers or good deals. Usually when they buy one, it’s because they stumbled onto it or found out about it through their sphere of influence.

 

Incidentally, top real estate agents are always big listers – they have lots of listings for sale. Why? Leverage! If I have 30 listings, that means I have all the other real estate agents in my board helping me to sell them. That means I could be on vacation and have three homes sell while I’m gone. Try that working with buyers. How can you work with 30 buyers at once? You can’t.

 

You’ll rarely see a top real estate agent out with a buyer. If you do, I guarantee they have a signed buyer agency agreement and the buyer is ready to buy something right now. This is why it’s not a good fit to work with this minority group; they are so busy already. I just wanted to point out they’re not out buying all the property that everyone thinks they are.

 

A lot of new investors think real estate agents and other investors must already be using all the available investing techniques. In reality nothing could be further from the truth. Most just use the basics and struggle to get by.

 

We still haven’t answered the million-dollar question. How do you find “homes priced less than foreclosures”? The answer is the MLS, but it will require some explaining before you understand.

 

As a real estate agent I have always like to used square footage as a good indicator of price for a home, as do a lot of appraisers. Again I’m speaking in general terms right now. For example, a 3400 square foot home for sale at $340,000 is $100 per square foot.

 

In a subdivision with similar homes that is a very good starting point, using square footage based on homes recently sold. I’m not going to split hairs talking about style, additional features, larger lots and all that. In order for you to understand what I’m saying, you need to think in general terms right now. The details come in later when you have to plus and minus out certain things to come up with a fair market value (FMV) using a lot of methods an appraiser would.

 

Incidentally a good real estate agent can be just as accurate as, if not more than, an appraiser. A little known fact is appraisers will call agents who have recently sold a home to help them get a better idea of what it is they’re appraising.

 

Let me now define fair market value for you. Fair market value is simply the most probable price that a property should bring in a fair sale. This definition makes three assumptions. First, it presumes a competitive and open market. Second, the buyer and seller are both assumed to be acting prudently and knowledgeably. Third, the market value depends on the price not being affected by unusual circumstances.

 

The difference between market value and market price is that market value is an opinion of value based on the analysis of data. Market price, on the other hand, is what a property actually sells for, its sale price. In theory, if everything is correct, market price should be pretty close to the same as market value.

 

So what’s all this got to do with “Finding Homes Priced less Than Foreclosures?” Actually lots! Let me now take you on an inside journey through an MLS. We already know this is a phenomenal real estate weapon for an investor. At this stage if the real estate investor could get into the MLS system, it would be off to the races. So let’s look a little deeper into this.

 

Amazingly, the majority of the real estate agents who use the MLS don’t know how to use it effectively; Most can barely muddle through it. All MLS’s are not the same. There are hundreds of different ones and most use different independent software to make them work. It’s not like Microsoft® Windows where over 90% of the people all use the same system.

 

They pretty much all work the same as far as the information contained, but that is where the similarities stop. When an agent comes in and turns on their computer to access the MLS, they get a generic template of properties and criteria. There is usually an infinite number of ways to customize virtually any MLS. Most agents only know how to use the generic template. It’s enough to get by.

 

It’s like any software program; they all do so much more, but most people only utilize a fraction of what any program will do. Has this ever happened to you? You were using a software program and somebody came along and showed you how to do something you didn’t know how to do or that could be done. If you’re like most people, your initial reaction was, “Wow, that’s pretty cool.” It’s the same exact thing with any MLS software program.

 

The secret is to search these properties by price per square foot and other valuable criteria. I’ve seen MLS’s that have the price per square foot category in them already, but then again, I’ve seen others that don’t. Mine didn’t. I had to use conversion forms and different integers to set it up to work effectively with my select criteria that gave me advantages over everyone else.

 

It was a lot of work, work that most people wouldn’t bother with. They would still be taking out their HP12C (financial calculator) and doing it the hard way. That’s why a lot of deals are missed.

 

Now that’s not to say those good deals won’t sell right away, because they will. Usually when they come on the market, if they’re not picked off right away by my MLS formula, they will be picked off by accident or by word of mouth. The listing agent really only needs to talk about it a bit at the office and someone will end up finding a buyer. This is why it’s critical for the investor to get to it as soon as it comes up on the MLS.

 

I’ll give you a great example. I saw a home that came up on an MLS that was 5400 square feet on a half-acre lot for $154,900 with possible seller financing. For that area that was a smoking deal!

 

Nobody could find the house on the MLS! How can that be you say? Here’s how it happens. When an agent has a buyer in front of them, he or she is asking questions to plug criteria into the computer: how much money are you willing to spend, number of bedrooms, square footage, etcetera. Out pops a list and there you go. Let’s take a little closer look and see what is being left behind. Here’s how the conversation usually goes.

 

Agent: How much are you planning on spending?

 

Jones Family: Between $140,000 and $160,000

 

Agent: How much room do you need?

 

Jones Family: We have five kids so I would say between 3000 and 4000 square feet.

 

Agent: How many bedrooms, bathrooms, blah, blah, blah…

 

In that prime example the home was missed because of square footage. Their input range into the computer was 3000 to 4000 square feet. The computer missed it because of the house’s larger square footage. Based on price per square foot the home was an absolute steal. It did sell rather quickly, too. This happens because of word of mouth among agents. Someone will always have a buyer looking for a deal like that.

 

Without getting into a lot more of the details, tricks and idiosyncrasies of MLS’s, here is something you must never forget. Less information is better, and always search for properties by price per square foot. As an investor everything else is secondary. Do you really care if the carpet is pink if the home is priced at 50 or 60 cents on the dollar?

 

That’s exactly what I do. I don’t even use price as an eliminator. I simply plug in single family, town home or whatever and push the button. Up pop hundreds, if not thousands (depending on where you live), of listings. Then I do the magic secret next.

 

I push a button that sorts them from the highest to the lowest. Then I simply look at the lowest priced properties in the entire area and pick from there. How powerful is that? Extremely!

 

I need to caution you. They have to be checked on a daily basis. This is why you need a real estate agent. Most agents can have this set up so it can be e-mailed to you on a daily basis. This happens once they set up these criteria in their system.

 

You need to be respectful of an agent’s time. Don’t expect them to manually look at these everyday and call or mail them to you. Here’s the deal with my investors. I plug in their criteria and they’re e-mailed the properties on a daily basis. From there they choose the ones that interest them. I expect them to drive by and initially check them out. When they have narrowed it down to what they want to buy, I’ll open up the houses and we’ll write offers.

 

Here’s an actual example from off the MLS so you can see for yourself. This is the default generic template of a broad search of properties in my area. Most agents will narrow a search down by area, and that is one of the ways you can miss a deal. You have to realize the majority of real estate agents are just using the MLS to look for properties for the everyday buyer, not the real estate investor.

 

Most agents get by just fine using it this way. However, that isn’t even beginning to tap into the power of the MLS. Guess what? Almost any MLS across the country can be set up the way I’m going to show you in just a moment.

 

 

As you can see, this is what the majority of agents would see. Not very specific is it? You get your basic template of price, beds, baths, square footage and address. Of course, you can import other fields. However, this is what the majority of real estate agents will use. I want you to notice that the yellow highlights (next page) on the three listings are actual bank-owned REOs  (real estate owned) in my area. You can see there are many homes priced less than the REOs. These are the homes that are priced “less than foreclosures.” Notice the important information that I’ve added:

 

Psf - Price per square foot

List Date - Nice to know how long it’s been on the market.

 

I simply plug in single-family homes and all the active listings in the entire county are at my disposal in the format that I like to use. I then sort by price per square footage from the lowest to the highest price. Bingo!

 

These are the cheapest houses in the entire area right in front of my eyes. I can also see how long they’ve been on the market. If they’ve been there for a while, maybe they’re even more motivated to sell.

 

You have to check this list almost daily. Why? You never know when a property is going to pop up. Check it weekly or every once in a while and you’ll miss a lot of deals. It’s fairly easy to have this search set up and automated on most MLS’s across the country.

 

Can you see how powerful this is? This has been a general overview of what you can do with this, but make no mistake in the power of this. As a matter of fact, you may not want to tell everyone you know about it, especially other investors in your area.

 

Let’s now talk about how we know what any home is worth, when it will sell and for how much. If you guessed that it’s with certain criteria that we plug into the MLS, you are right again.

 

Let’s now talk about, how we know what any home is worth, when it will sell and for how much. If you guessed with certain criteria that we plug into the MLS – you are right again!

 

The following example I’m going to talk about is an actual sold search on my MLS. In looking at it - it really doesn’t give me much information. In my MLS – I can’t even look at the sold price unless I know how to drag that field in on to the screen. I then have to click on each individual listing to see the sold price. Can you believe that?

 

How surprised would you be to know this is the view the majority of real estate agents look at and rely on? All it really does is give them a brief overview. Can you use this? Yes. Is there a better way? You’d better believe it. A few will drag in different fields to expose additional information, but not many. I’ve seen hundreds of agents over the years use the MLS, and virtually none of them do what I’m about to show you here.

 

It takes training to learn how to really work an MLS to your advantage. After all, the data is only as good as the interpreter and the person who sets up the parameters of the different searches and views.

          

I’ve also viewed the street, city, beds, bath, total square feet, year built and lot size in acres. Then I averaged the fields at the bottom. I could have also picked median instead of average if I wanted to. So how does that help me? In many different ways, to say the least!

 

For example - let’s say I wanted to comp a similar home on which I was going to make an offer. I can start eliminating square footage that is not in the range to get me closer to an average. From there I can use the year, price or whatever else I need to.

 

After playing with this for a while, it’s simple to find out exactly how much a home is worth, when it will sell and for how much. I know of no faster way to comp a home. We’re talking minutes, if that, with pinpoint accuracy. I can’t tell you how much time some investors spend trying to get an accurate figure on the price. Not any more!

 

Another way we use the formula is on land searches. In my area where lots and land are starting to become a premium, I’ve devised a great way of looking for land for investors who want to land bank. I simply search all land by price per acre because that’s where the deals will be.

 

So many investors struggle and beat their heads against a wall trying to find property, struggling to work with short sales and a lot of other things that are very time consuming and often not very profitable. You have to have a system that is the shortest path to the deal. The power of the MLS and working with a trained real estate agent cannot be argued. It just saves you so much time and helps you find deals you may have never found otherwise.

 

There is so much potential in the MLS and how you manage and work the data. How about this? What if I went back to all the expired listings for the last three months and now called them to see if they wanted to sell? I’ll bet you’d find some motivated sellers in there, not to mention the potential for new listings for your real estate agent or even for you if you decide to become a real estate agent. (More on that in an upcoming chapter.)

 

Can you imagine how knowing how to do this could change your life? Imagine all the investors with whom you could be working. Better yet, you could be picking off these properties for you and your family. That’s how powerful this is!



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